From magic-man@unh.edu Ukn Feb 8 17:51:38 1995 From: Marco A Terry Subject: Vision Improvement Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 10:15:15 -0500 (EST) Status: RO X-Status: Good Morrow to you all! Ok. I was wondering if any one has heard (or taken) the Silva Method Mind Control? It's is basically a class in meditation/relaxation/etc. Silva has also written some book. Enough for backgrond. I rememeber my teacher telling us a story of this fella who improved his eyesight by meditation and repeating the phrase 'every time I blink my lens adjusts to focus like the lens of a camara' or something along those lines (I took the class in spanish - the original phrase was 'Cada vez que pestaneo mi ojos se ajustan correctamente al foco, como la lente de una camara'). The idea is to repeat the phrase, while meditating a couple times, every day. I *more or less* tried it and I remember notincing some mild improvement (I only tried it for a week or so). Anyways. Any questions/commments/concerns welcome! Cheers & have some sort of a nice day! -- --Marco ----- Hitotsu, Jinkaku Kansei ni Tsutomeru Koto ========================================================================= From vicc@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU Ukn Feb 8 22:15:23 1995 From: Vic Cinc Subject: Re: Vision Improvement Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 12:56:01 +1100 (EST) Status: RO X-Status: > >Good Morrow to you all! > >Ok. I was wondering if any one has heard (or taken) the Silva Method >Mind Control? It's is basically a class in meditation/relaxation/etc. >Silva has also written some book. Enough for backgrond. >I rememeber my teacher telling us a story of this fella who >improved his eyesight by meditation and repeating the phrase >'every time I blink my lens adjusts to focus like the lens of a camara' or >something along those lines (I took the class in spanish - the original >phrase was 'Cada vez que pestaneo mi ojos se ajustan correctamente al foco, >como la lente de una camara'). The idea is to repeat the phrase, while >meditating a couple times, every day. I *more or less* tried it and >I remember notincing some mild improvement (I only tried it for a week >or so). Anyways. Any questions/commments/concerns welcome! > >Cheers & have some sort of a nice day! the silva method seems to me to be a cross between NLP and TM with some ESP thrown in for good measure. I dont think it can hurt trying it. There is quite a large component of visual problems that are "in the mind". I have a friend who when he takes the drug extasy, can see perfectly, but when he comes back to earth his vision goes sour again. odd. there are well documented cases of true multiple personalities where one personality is myopic or nearly blind, but other personalities have perfect vision. This to me implies each personality has a "set" of maybe muscular positions which the mind activates depending which personality is awake. Again pointing to an involuntary but modifieable aspect to sight problems. further along this point Richard Bandler of NLP fame, claims to be able to hypnotise subjects and regress them back to childhood, prior to sight problems, and bring them all back, but leave their eyes back in the pre-problem age. and when they awaken they can see proprely. But he does say this technique doesnt seem to work very well for people with astigmatism. Vic ========================================================================= From magic-man@unh.edu Ukn Feb 8 22:59:31 1995 From: Marco A Terry Subject: Re: Vision Improvement Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 22:51:59 -0500 (EST) Status: RO X-Status: > > > > >Good Morrow to you all! > > > >Ok. I was wondering if any one has heard (or taken) the Silva Method > >Mind Control? It's is basically a class in meditation/relaxation/etc. > >Silva has also written some book. Enough for backgrond. > >I rememeber my teacher telling us a story of this fella who > >improved his eyesight by meditation and repeating the phrase > >'every time I blink my lens adjusts to focus like the lens of a camara' or > >something along those lines (I took the class in spanish - the original > >phrase was 'Cada vez que pestaneo mi ojos se ajustan correctamente al foco, > >como la lente de una camara'). The idea is to repeat the phrase, while > >meditating a couple times, every day. I *more or less* tried it and > >I remember notincing some mild improvement (I only tried it for a week > >or so). Anyways. Any questions/commments/concerns welcome! > > > >Cheers & have some sort of a nice day! > > the silva method seems to me to be a cross between NLP and TM with some NLP? Was that..mmmm..Neuro Language Progamming?.....something like that... it rings a bell....could you please explain more? > ESP thrown in for good measure. I dont think it can hurt trying it. ^^^ Yep......I read mind on my spare time ;-) > There is quite a large component of visual problems that are > "in the mind". I have a friend who when he takes > the drug extasy, can see perfectly, but when he comes back to earth > his vision goes sour again. odd. there are well documented cases of Odd...not really. Since I did get a B.A. in psych. I have heard that sometime emotional trauma (say witnessing a murder/rape/accident) can cause severe myopia (I read this in a Hypnosis book - a reputable one from a Dr. who name escapes to me....not one of those 'Hypnotize anyone by tomorrow noon' books that we can buy for $15)..He manage to cure it with myopia. His explanation was that the mind crippled the eye (the mind can 'cripple' bodily functions (for the unbelievers) -as a quick example - people that have 'stress' (say due to a coming exam) sometimes experience sleep/eating problems)...anyways...getting of the subject, he did manage to treat some cases. Regarding Extasi & your compadre....mmmmm...I dunno if extasi causes alucinations or just turns people hyper....I am not sure if his experience is real.......I am not saying that your friend is lying (no flames please!), I am just impying that his statement or percetions might be unreliable. > true multiple personalities where one personality is myopic or nearly > blind, but other personalities have perfect vision. This to me > implies each personality has a "set" of maybe muscular positions which > the mind activates depending which personality is awake. Again pointing (see above paragraph with hypnosis and stuff) > to an involuntary but modifieable aspect to sight problems. > > further along this point Richard Bandler of NLP fame, claims to be able > to hypnotise subjects and regress them back to childhood, prior to > sight problems, and bring them all back, but leave their eyes back in > the pre-problem age. and when they awaken they can see proprely. But > he does say this technique doesnt seem to work very well for people with > astigmatism. > > Vic Well Vic & fellow I-seeer's.... 'See you guys tomorrow' :-) Adios. -- --Marco ----- Hitotsu, Jinkaku Kansei ni Tsutomeru Koto ========================================================================= From pkerns@indirect.com Ukn Feb 14 09:57:10 1995 From: Patricia Kerns Subject: NLP and vision Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 19:49:35 -0700 (MST) Status: RO X-Status: Hi, A week or so ago, someone brought up the subject of NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming). I absolutely do not profess to be an expert in NLP, but I have read a lot about it. One of the ideas of NLP is that we often unconsciously respond to messages that we hear all the time. (Any true NLP whizzes out there feel free to correct, flame, or whatever's appropriate if I've gotten this wrong!) For instance, an NLP-er would suggest that we fail to reach our true potential economically because of all the negative associations we have with money (root of all evil, can't buy happiness, etc). The idea of NLP is to root out all of those negative messages that we've stored away all these years and convert them to positive ones. Anyway, I decided to sit down and think of all the "messages" I can remember being given as a kid with regard to vision. I realized, in doing this, that I received overwhelmingly negative messages from my overwhelmingly well-meaning mother for years as a child. I remembered her saying, "Sit up straight when you read, OR YOU"LL RUIN YOUR EYES," "Find some better light, OR YOU"LL RUIN YOUR EYES," "Quit reading under the covers with a flashlight OR YOU"LL RUIN YOUR EYES," on and on and on. I actually called two of my sisters to ask them if they remembered this. They did (and thought it was pretty funny, remembering it). So an NLP-er would say I obediently did just what my mother said I would do; I ruined my eyes (BTW, all eight of my siblings also wear glasses, but my mother, god bless her, never did until old age set in.) Anyway, now what I do is, when I'm doing any vision training, or just thinking about relaxing to improve my vision, I picture my mother saying, in that same voice: "You'd better cut that out, or YOU"LL FIX YOUR EYES!" Who knows if this is of any help? It makes me laugh, if nothing else. One other NLP thing I have decided on is to refer to the stuff I do every day as "vision games" rather than "vision exercises." It gives me a different attitude about doing the stuff. If anyone is more interested in NLP and vision, I remember reading a message by Tad James (one of the NLP founding fathers, I think) in alt.self-improvement. He described using some technique called "Time Line Regression" (I think...) to improve his vision. If you read this newsgroup for a couple of weeks, he's bound to post something else, should you want to contact him. Patty =========================================================================